Nakahama

Utaku Itsuka wrote: Sun Nov 30, 2025 9:38 am

Hatoful GM wrote: Sun Nov 30, 2025 9:09 am
Do you mean the firewall specific penalties for failure? Correct. Otherwise, I'm not sure what you mean; please clarify.

Hmmm that, and also specific rules for each firewall. Traitor's Path, Guard (Lion) Dog, and the Temptress. They all seem to be specific rules for Hacking, but worth double-checking.

Put another way - do any clan-specific rules apply to Reinforce? My reading at first is that they don't, but wanted to double check!

The Backdoor can be used to Reinforce. The rest of the rules only apply to hacking attempts.

Hatoful GM wrote: Sun Nov 30, 2025 9:58 am The Backdoor can be used to Reinforce. The rest of the rules only apply to hacking attempts.

Ah, right! So just the extra skill (for all but Scorpion).

Thanks!

Boogiepop wrote: Sat Nov 29, 2025 3:55 pm

Miya Kisha wrote: Sat Nov 29, 2025 11:02 am For the Security event, do the bonuses to social skill rolls due to Social Position still apply?

Hmm, that's really iffy...sure, I'll allow it.

It's why I was asking, but I thank you for the answer!

Just regarding this result, not to be Rules Lawyer but,

Kaiu Tetsu wrote: Sat Nov 29, 2025 11:30 pm
D9LA - Bid Event - Security Testing - Action 1 - Reinforce (Mantis) - Use Computer/Intelligence - 1 CR - VP spent | 6k5 ⇒ 23 (TN: 25) Fail

D9LA - Bid Event - Security Testing - Action 2&3 - Hack(Dragon )- one action used to reduce TN by 5- Use Computer/Intelligence - 1 CR - VP spent | 6k5 ⇒ 27 (TN: 25) Pass, -2 Integrity Rating to the Dragon

The total loss of Integrity Rating should be -1, given the special rules for the Dragon network, which gives us a Integrity point for failure

Boogiepop wrote: Sat Nov 29, 2025 10:11 am

• Dragon Clan - Root Online Output Freeware
  Network Integrity Rating: 3
  Backdoor Skill: Meditation/Void
  TN: 25
  On success, Root Online Output Freeware loses 1 Network Integrity Rating and an additional 1 Network Integrity Rating per Raise Called. On failure, the Hacker adds 1 Network Integrity Rating to Root Online Output Freeware.
  Free Your Mind - The Hacker may spend an additional 1 of their 3 Actions (must have actions remaining) to reduce the TN by 5. This can be done twice.

Just so I understand (not that I'm saying I plan to but it isn't fully clear) you can't make a computer(hacking) roll against Scorpion Clan - Temptress to reduce integrity, only the tempting offer thing?

Kitsuki Ichitaiyo wrote: Sun Nov 30, 2025 1:58 pm Just regarding this result, not to be Rules Lawyer but,

Kaiu Tetsu wrote: Sat Nov 29, 2025 11:30 pm
D9LA - Bid Event - Security Testing - Action 1 - Reinforce (Mantis) - Use Computer/Intelligence - 1 CR - VP spent | 6k5 ⇒ 23 (TN: 25) Fail

D9LA - Bid Event - Security Testing - Action 2&3 - Hack(Dragon )- one action used to reduce TN by 5- Use Computer/Intelligence - 1 CR - VP spent | 6k5 ⇒ 27 (TN: 25) Pass, -2 Integrity Rating to the Dragon

The total loss of Integrity Rating should be -1, given the special rules for the Dragon network, which gives us a Integrity point for failure

Boogiepop wrote: Sat Nov 29, 2025 10:11 am

• Dragon Clan - Root Online Output Freeware
  Network Integrity Rating: 3
  Backdoor Skill: Meditation/Void
  TN: 25
  On success, Root Online Output Freeware loses 1 Network Integrity Rating and an additional 1 Network Integrity Rating per Raise Called. On failure, the Hacker adds 1 Network Integrity Rating to Root Online Output Freeware.
  Free Your Mind - The Hacker may spend an additional 1 of their 3 Actions (must have actions remaining) to reduce the TN by 5. This can be done twice.

Fortunately the failed roll was Reinforce the Mantis network, as it states in the roll descriptor

The second roll had one action spent to reduce the TN by 5, which was then raised with a CR back to TN 25. This roll succeeded with one called Raise

Kaiu Tetsu wrote: Sun Nov 30, 2025 2:03 pm

Kitsuki Ichitaiyo wrote: Sun Nov 30, 2025 1:58 pm Just regarding this result, not to be Rules Lawyer but,

Kaiu Tetsu wrote: Sat Nov 29, 2025 11:30 pm
D9LA - Bid Event - Security Testing - Action 1 - Reinforce (Mantis) - Use Computer/Intelligence - 1 CR - VP spent | 6k5 ⇒ 23 (TN: 25) Fail

D9LA - Bid Event - Security Testing - Action 2&3 - Hack(Dragon )- one action used to reduce TN by 5- Use Computer/Intelligence - 1 CR - VP spent | 6k5 ⇒ 27 (TN: 25) Pass, -2 Integrity Rating to the Dragon

The total loss of Integrity Rating should be -1, given the special rules for the Dragon network, which gives us a Integrity point for failure

Boogiepop wrote: Sat Nov 29, 2025 10:11 am

• Dragon Clan - Root Online Output Freeware
  Network Integrity Rating: 3
  Backdoor Skill: Meditation/Void
  TN: 25
  On success, Root Online Output Freeware loses 1 Network Integrity Rating and an additional 1 Network Integrity Rating per Raise Called. On failure, the Hacker adds 1 Network Integrity Rating to Root Online Output Freeware.
  Free Your Mind - The Hacker may spend an additional 1 of their 3 Actions (must have actions remaining) to reduce the TN by 5. This can be done twice.

Fortunately the failed roll was Reinforce the Mantis network, as it states in the roll descriptor

The second roll had one action spent to reduce the TN by 5, which was then raised with a CR back to TN 25. This roll succeeded with one called Raise

My bad, apologies!

Susumu Sumiko wrote: Sun Nov 30, 2025 2:01 pm Just so I understand (not that I'm saying I plan to but it isn't fully clear) you can't make a computer(hacking) roll against Scorpion Clan - Temptress to reduce integrity, only the tempting offer thing?

You can hack Temptress in the normal way. The Tempting Offer replaces the Backdoor option.

Hatoful GM wrote: Sun Nov 30, 2025 2:45 pm

Susumu Sumiko wrote: Sun Nov 30, 2025 2:01 pm Just so I understand (not that I'm saying I plan to but it isn't fully clear) you can't make a computer(hacking) roll against Scorpion Clan - Temptress to reduce integrity, only the tempting offer thing?

You can hack Temptress in the normal way. The Tempting Offer replaces the Backdoor option.

So it's the -1 point plus 1 for each raise like the others? As it isn't on the event

Susumu Sumiko wrote: Sun Nov 30, 2025 3:44 pm

Hatoful GM wrote: Sun Nov 30, 2025 2:45 pm

Susumu Sumiko wrote: Sun Nov 30, 2025 2:01 pm Just so I understand (not that I'm saying I plan to but it isn't fully clear) you can't make a computer(hacking) roll against Scorpion Clan - Temptress to reduce integrity, only the tempting offer thing?

You can hack Temptress in the normal way. The Tempting Offer replaces the Backdoor option.

So it's the -1 point plus 1 for each raise like the others? As it isn't on the event

Correct.

For the Hacking Event, is it known who is hacking who?

Ikoma Nonoko wrote: Sun Nov 30, 2025 8:29 am In the arcade event the Moshi Moshi Super Sunrise, if you raised on the 3 but failed 1 do you get the max or is it just the 100 per successful roll +400 for each successful roll with a raise no matter the amountyou raised... it is kind of confusing.

For example my roll
I raise on all 3 rolls by 2, I missed the 1st try...do I get a total of 200 (100 ×2 successes) or 1800 (2× (100+ [400×2]))or 2200 (2×1100 for calling 2 raises on every roll) or 0 (for falling 1 roll) or 1100 (for calling 2 raises on the 3 rolls)?

Bump

Tamori Kanna wrote: Sun Nov 30, 2025 4:52 pm For the Hacking Event, is it known who is hacking who?

Generally...yes. I imagine the character showing up in front of a demo booth and going 'Let me take your network defense system for a totally harmless* run'.

Harmless, still having repercussions on the reputation of the system.

Ikoma Nonoko wrote: Sun Nov 30, 2025 10:48 pm

Ikoma Nonoko wrote: Sun Nov 30, 2025 8:29 am In the arcade event the Moshi Moshi Super Sunrise, if you raised on the 3 but failed 1 do you get the max or is it just the 100 per successful roll +400 for each successful roll with a raise no matter the amountyou raised... it is kind of confusing.

For example my roll
I raise on all 3 rolls by 2, I missed the 1st try...do I get a total of 200 (100 ×2 successes) or 1800 (2× (100+ [400×2]))or 2200 (2×1100 for calling 2 raises on every roll) or 0 (for falling 1 roll) or 1100 (for calling 2 raises on the 3 rolls)?

Bump

Sorry for missing this question earlier!

The concept of Moshi Moshi Super Sunrise is that each roll has a linked Call Raise to make it high risk and high reward. So if you wish to start calling raises, they should all match (to symbolize matching the rhythm and steps streak). So if you call a raise and you fail on the first or following tries, you don't get any bonuses of that raise.

So if you start rolling and fail your first roll with raises called, it would likely be best to not call raises on the following rolls, as they wouldn't give you any bonuses for "missing the rhythm" streak.

So yes, you would get a total of 200 tickets only.

Hatoful GM wrote: Sun Nov 30, 2025 4:15 pm

Susumu Sumiko wrote: Sun Nov 30, 2025 3:44 pm

Hatoful GM wrote: Sun Nov 30, 2025 2:45 pm

You can hack Temptress in the normal way. The Tempting Offer replaces the Backdoor option.

So it's the -1 point plus 1 for each raise like the others? As it isn't on the event

Correct.

There's no 'on failure gain' then for this, as some clans have it part of their backdoor and others don't?

Susumu Sumiko wrote: Mon Dec 01, 2025 6:26 pm

Hatoful GM wrote: Sun Nov 30, 2025 4:15 pm

Susumu Sumiko wrote: Sun Nov 30, 2025 3:44 pm

So it's the -1 point plus 1 for each raise like the others? As it isn't on the event

Correct.

There's no 'on failure gain' then for this, as some clans have it part of their backdoor and others don't?

I've added language for standard hacking attempts that includes an on failure gain.